Is this a Unifrog

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Is this a Unifrog

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Hello All,

I purchased this point along with several others. All other seem to be unifrog as ordered this one is the only left hand point all others were right hand. My question here is this one doesn’t look anything like the other lot. This one has hinged blades for starters whereas the others are all sprung blades. My feeling is this is an electrofrog. Not really a problem as I am happy to do the modifications required for DCC compatability but seeing unifrog are supposed to be ready straight out of the box.. I just don't want to do the modifications unnecessarily if its not needed. I did start install it as you can see but its been playing on my mind so decided to ask the experts.

There is a shortage of unifrogs here in AU and perhaps Peco haven't set up tooling for a left hand point as yet. Then again I wouldn't put it past a hobby shop to do a slight of hand just to fulfill an order.....

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I do not think it is. Unifrog points have a insulated gap just behind the point of the frog before the vee rails splay out and the in front of the frog there is another insulated gap in the diverging rails before they splay out each side of the frog. I cannot see either on the photo provided but a slightly better angle and landscape view will confirm that. See the link below:

https://peco-uk.com/products/code-70-no ... d-uniofrog

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Enlarging the top image it looks to me as though it's a standard Electrofrog point. The middle (Underside view) also looks very much like Electrofrog.

This image is taken from the Peco web site for the SL-U8362 point and I have circled the two distinctive gaps that are in a Unifrog point. Also there is no pivot in the switch rails on a Unifrog point.
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I would set a small test track, as you did before, and see whether it does what you want, before you start doing modifications.
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That's a standard electrofrog. As others have stated, Unifrog points do not have hinged blades.
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Looks like modifications are called for. I have another pair on order for yet another change in the layout so will do them all at the samd time.

Thanks all for the replies.

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Hello all,

Did the modifications and set up a temporary test track and wired and set it up as per CharlieChadwicks videos (hreat videos) and same as the Peco site. At moderate speed the engine ran across the point pretty well enough but stalled at lower speeds. Not really worried as a polarity switch should fix that. Which brings another question, where do you wire the polarity switch to a servo operated point. I am thinking pretty much the same as any other polarity switch.

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Hi
Normally on a Servo a Micro Switch is fitted so as the servo arm compress the micro switches lever in one position and releases it in the other position.
A single micro switch is fitted in the image below and uses a MERG servo mount, which can accommodate up to four microswitches if required.

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This web site - Dingo servo mounts, who sells metal servo mounts, in this image multiple micro switches can be seen attached to the mount https://www.dingoservo.co.uk/dingo-low- ... mount.html
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Thank you Brian what a good idea. Dingo sounds a bit Aussie. Dingo is the name of a wild native dog over here. They don't have a great name but are part of this country.

Never ceased to be amazed at the ideas and knowledge of people involved in this hobby. Marvellous.

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Unfortunatly, while the name is somewhat Aus. its a UK based one man style company. :D
I have no idea if he exports outside the UK? If you're interested you can always email him.
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