Wire connectors

[teedoubleudee]

...................................And it really is not that difficult to solder under the boards - done it hundreds of times and haven’t burnt myself yet.

If you are fit and able. There are some on here, including myself, who find it extremely difficult.

[Steve M]

...................................And it really is not that difficult to solder under the boards - done it hundreds of times and haven’t burnt myself yet.

If you are fit and able.

I’m not - rheumatoid arthritis in my hips and spine for starters.

[Tricky Dicky]

Having spent much of my working life soldering in one form or another including precious metals, I agree with you John that soldering is the best method and one I would favour over others for layout wiring. However, I do see why some people would prefer alternative methods.

As for Wagos, these were designed to meet changes in the wiring regulations when the 17th amendment forbade the use of screw terminals in inaccessible places. So if they are good enough for the IET then they are good enough to use on a layout. Spring loaded terminals are used by DCC Concepts on their Cobalt range of point motors.

Richard

[Tricky Dicky]

Watch out with wago's & folding the copper cable in half to make a thin cable fit better. These will quite often jam behind the clamp if you want to remove that cable. Not sure on the answer, but i have permanently damaged a few wago's doing this.

You should not need to do that with Wagos, I have experimented 7/0.2mm wire which is probably the smallest you are likely to use. After just twisting and inserting the bared end pulling the two apart ended with the wire giving before the Wago let go.

Richard

[footplate1947]

...................................And it really is not that difficult to solder under the boards - done it hundreds of times and haven’t burnt myself yet.

If you are fit and able. There are some on here, including myself, who find it extremely difficult.

Not that old one Terry,,,,,,,,,,,, I am now 71 and disabled now days, and have plenty of trouble getting up off the floor like all the other old codgers like me but if it has to be done it gets done.

[footplate1947]

Just to add to to this soldering under boards thing. I agree it is difficult for older people to get under, but think on this. I have got over the problem in most cases. You can run most wires from the point motor, droppers, or whatever it is being wired up to the underside of the front of the boards. and run them from there to the supplies, switch boards, controllers or where ever they need to go. All from just under the front of the boards. If you want to you can run wires through cable tidies along the front of the BB edges. Then they are on the out side and you don't have to go under at all except with a meter if you have a fault to trace. And often you can do that from the top. Food for thought.............

[teedoubleudee]

...................................And it really is not that difficult to solder under the boards - done it hundreds of times and haven’t burnt myself yet.

If you are fit and able. There are some on here, including myself, who find it extremely difficult.

Not that old one Terry,,,,,,,,,,,, I am now 71 and disabled now days, and have plenty of trouble getting up off the floor like all the other old codgers like me but if it has to be done it gets done.

I didn't say it was impossible for me John, just difficult, and Ive spent most of my adult life taking the easy route when one is offered.

But I bet you your next pension payment there are many modellers who REALLY cant do it

[footplate1947]

Hi Terry I did not say every body can get under but if you have a layout we all have to go under at sometime or other even if you use those suggested magic connectors you still have to go under to fit them dont you.
If I have a problem that I cant handle I get some body else to come in and help me out. I had to do that few weeks ago when I found I could not lift my new cooker into place and adjust it's height. My dad used to say..........No such a word in the English language as can't

[Chris]

Wago connectors a great and have the added plus that for a building the lighting or something can be easily disconnected so it can be lifted off, something that I find handy as it allows the scenery to be developed and lit even if it isn't yet permanent.