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If the loco doesn’t have traction tyres you can’t fit them without changing the wheels. I only asked in case the tyres were supposed to be there but were missing.

This is one model which would have been better with tender drive.But they would not have fitted a ringfield into it it would have needed a new neater motor.

Viscount wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:22 pm I recently got a couple of these and the traction is terrible. Hauling two coaches on the flat is a struggle and gradient? Well forget it. Anyone any tips how to improve? I've tried weights but there's not a lot of space.

I have just found out more info, Aparantly the latest version of these was the LMS ex Calidonian built circa 2004 /5 around then. They did have traction tyres and pick ups on all wheels I believe as well and probably a new type motor. I have not got one to look at and check. I would say the best way to improove your locos would be to buy a pair of those. I donbt you will find two replacement chassis as the people who sell spares on ebay ask stupid somes of money for them.

Download the service sheets for the various variants to see if any parts are interchangeable to make it a better model.

RAF far as I know the parts in the service sheets are like Hens teeth mate. I have only seen over the last 5 years old type wheels for these, The new type with grooves for traction tyres nowhere. I have looked at all the service sheets I always do and assume that that the chap asking the question has too. I am not trying to teach granny to suck eggs.

It maybe difficult to get a drive to fit with the tender as the tender is smaller than the lord of the isles which you could in theory use the county 4-4-0 tender drive with

Would the Mainline Dean Goods tender be any use? It was low sided and had to have the coal heaped up pretty high to cover the motor.

I think I'll need to accept just to run on level track unless/until I find a solution. As noted in previous posts, there was a later model using traction tyres and with pickups on the front bogie, but difficult to source and hard to see how I could convert mine.

Out of interest, how many coaches does it pull on level track?

I'm pulling 2 but one has coach lighting pickups on the axles so has a bit more drag than otherwise.