Wire connectors
Re: Wire connectors
I am thinking of using Wago lever type connectors, but i don't see any method of securing them to the base of my control panel, I don't know if double sided tape would be strong enough.
Any suggestions?
Any suggestions?
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Re: Wire connectors
Hi
Glue them with an impact glue or use double sided sticky fixers or car number plate tape.
Glue them with an impact glue or use double sided sticky fixers or car number plate tape.
Re: Wire connectors
Thanks Brian
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Re: Wire connectors
You might be better bundling the wires entering the Wago and secure them with a cable clip as near the Wago as possible.
There are specific junction boxes available for Wagos using a single screw fixing, here is an example;
https://www.screwfix.com/p/wagobox-junc ... /7355f#_=p
Richard
There are specific junction boxes available for Wagos using a single screw fixing, here is an example;
https://www.screwfix.com/p/wagobox-junc ... /7355f#_=p
Richard
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Re: Wire connectors
If you have a permanent layout which does not have to be taken down why don't you just twist them together and put drop of solder on them. Cost almost zero.
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Re: Wire connectors
Maybe the OP is trying to avoid soldering particularly under a base board?footplate1947 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:59 am If you have a permanent layout which does not have to be taken down why don't you just twist them together and put drop of solder on them. Cost almost zero.
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Yes realise that Tricky but but you can bring a bunch of wires to the edge of the BBs and all you have to do is solder them, label them up, then all you have to do is to tack them up under the BBs near the front somewhere convenient. that way you dont have to go under often unless you have to find a point motor or something similar. But you can run all wire to like junction boxes near the front to make life easier. Of course you will use more wire. But saves a lot of bending.Tricky Dicky wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:15 amMaybe the OP is trying to avoid soldering particularly under a base board?footplate1947 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:59 am If you have a permanent layout which does not have to be taken down why don't you just twist them together and put drop of solder on them. Cost almost zero.
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Watch out with wago's & folding the copper cable in half to make a thin cable fit better. These will quite often jam behind the clamp if you want to remove that cable. Not sure on the answer, but i have permanently damaged a few wago's doing this.
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Re: Wire connectors
There is a train of thought which instils the idea that if somebody thinks up a new idea or gadget everyone thinks they have to go out and have it. Sort of keeping up with the Jones.
Lets put this in perspective. I will say at this point that this is only my point of view. Everybody in the world out there is welcome to their own train of thought.
Now my first point is the only time you would need easy to separate wiring joints is if the layout has to be taken down to be shown at exhibitions and that sort of thing. Most people have a layout in there home which is set up on permanent basis so there is no need to have separating wire joints of any kind. I think another reason why a lot of these easy connection devices are used is they look flash. But I may be wrong but I think they just produce a lot more problem areas around the layout which can cause problems. We all know what a pain it is searching out a loose connection. It can take days. Now my point is that for the time taken for the soldering iron to warm up you can join up any wire anywhere permanently with no fuss and at very little cost. Once the joint is made it will last for years with no trouble unlike wire joints which are made using devices which hold the wire with sprung systems. Over time the joints can corrode especially in places like outbuildings even garages which have little or no heating and suffer from high levels of dampness.
You cannot do better than a good old fashioned solder joint even if it means you have to bend down and get under the baseboard once in a while. At least once you have soldered everything and you know it will last for very long time.
If you don't use a load of flashy looking and costly wire joiners you may even have saved enough money to convince the wife you can afford that nice new loco you have been thinking about. Also if at the moment you are a little shy at using the soldering iron, I can assure you that, after you have finished the first layout you will have become an expert at soldering up anything. It is as easy as falling off a log, as they say.
Lets put this in perspective. I will say at this point that this is only my point of view. Everybody in the world out there is welcome to their own train of thought.
Now my first point is the only time you would need easy to separate wiring joints is if the layout has to be taken down to be shown at exhibitions and that sort of thing. Most people have a layout in there home which is set up on permanent basis so there is no need to have separating wire joints of any kind. I think another reason why a lot of these easy connection devices are used is they look flash. But I may be wrong but I think they just produce a lot more problem areas around the layout which can cause problems. We all know what a pain it is searching out a loose connection. It can take days. Now my point is that for the time taken for the soldering iron to warm up you can join up any wire anywhere permanently with no fuss and at very little cost. Once the joint is made it will last for years with no trouble unlike wire joints which are made using devices which hold the wire with sprung systems. Over time the joints can corrode especially in places like outbuildings even garages which have little or no heating and suffer from high levels of dampness.
You cannot do better than a good old fashioned solder joint even if it means you have to bend down and get under the baseboard once in a while. At least once you have soldered everything and you know it will last for very long time.
If you don't use a load of flashy looking and costly wire joiners you may even have saved enough money to convince the wife you can afford that nice new loco you have been thinking about. Also if at the moment you are a little shy at using the soldering iron, I can assure you that, after you have finished the first layout you will have become an expert at soldering up anything. It is as easy as falling off a log, as they say.
If only there was enough hours in the day..................John
Re: Wire connectors
Couldn’t agree more John. It’s all about using the right tool for the job - If you know you will have to separate the wires then a connector that allows it should be used, in all other cases a soldered joint should be employed.
And it really is not that difficult to solder under the boards - done it hundreds of times and haven’t burnt myself yet.
And it really is not that difficult to solder under the boards - done it hundreds of times and haven’t burnt myself yet.
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