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Re: dcc digital

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:45 am
by RFS
dtb wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:46 am can you securely fix a Wago?
Double-sided sticky pads.

Re: dcc digital

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:19 pm
by dtb
thank you

Re: dcc digital

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:55 am
by Tricky Dicky
You might be better supporting the Wago by the wires going in near to the Wago using these;

https://www.screwfix.com/p/cable-tie-ba ... pack/36085

With a cable tie, just make sure the surface is sealed otherwise the adhesive pad may not stick well.

Alternatively, these and cable ties;

https://www.screwfix.com/p/cable-tie-ma ... pack/68305

I know it says masonry but they can be used equally as well in a softwood under frame.

Richard

Re: dcc digital

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:56 pm
by Rog (RJ)
You can get a Wago box to house the connectors, about £1.50 each, bit expensive if you are only going to put one connector in though. :lol:

Re: dcc digital

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:27 pm
by bobclifford1953
hi i am going to try wago connectors got the bus wires in situ one red and one black soldiering the droppers to the rails and wago for bus wires fingers crossed all will be ok and i will have many happy hours of running trains best regards bob :D :D :D

Re: dcc digital

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:58 am
by Tricky Dicky
Steve M wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:32 pm I suggest you do one loop and get that running correctly then test as you go as you add the other droppers. You will soon spot any potential mistakes and short circuits.

Bob
When using WAGO’S use the lever clamping type either the older 222 series, shown below


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Or the newer 221 series

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Although the push in type say they take stranded wire they are really talking about the type of stranded wire you get in the larger cable sizes typically used in house wiring (4mm2 or above). The lever type will happily grip all types.

There is less choice regards the number of ways with the lever type 2, 3 & 5 way only. The minimum number of ways you will require is 3-way, this allows bus wire in, bus wire out and a third way for a dropper. A 5-way would give you connections for 3 droppers. You can cascade them if you need to connect more droppers at one location ie. a 3-way in the bus wire and a 5-way connected to the third terminal will give you 4 droppers. In the wiring regulations for house wiring you are only allowed a single cable per terminal. You are not bound by that for layout wiring but there will come a point where the number of cables stuffed in a terminal will result in poor grip and subsequent poor connection and is not a practice I would recommend as it makes fault finding difficult without having to make a number of disconnections.

Richard

Re: dcc digital

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:39 am
by RogerB
I have used the 221 type [4 way in my case] arranged back to back [ for + and - ]and stuck underneath the base board. Can highly recommend them. R-

Re: dcc digital

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:45 pm
by darkscot
I am a big fan of BIGCLIVEDOTCOM on Youtube and he has done a report of some very useful 'copies' of WAGO connectors that WAGO do not even make!

https://youtu.be/OP86SxqP7I8

I have found them on eBay and they are currently £5.92 for ten.

Re: dcc digital

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:30 am
by RFS
darkscot wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:45 pm I am a big fan of BIGCLIVEDOTCOM on Youtube and he has done a report of some very useful 'copies' of WAGO connectors that WAGO do not even make!

https://youtu.be/OP86SxqP7I8

I have found them on eBay and they are currently £5.92 for ten.
I think they're described as "generic" terminals. A good selection here - https://www.banggood.com/search/termina ... ector.html

Re: dcc digital

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:29 am
by IanS
Another example. Slightly more pricey. https://www.toolstation.com/in-line-spr ... ors/p45902

Rated at 32A so no worries for using it with 12V-20V DC at max 16amps.

The different colours for the levers is a 'good idea' :D