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Capacitor discharge unit.
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:41 pm
by RSR Engineer
A small problem with a vintage CDU from my old layout that got a bit knocked about during 12 years' storage in the attic. In short, the capacitors (Gaugemaster's original one plus two boosters I put on myself) have come adrift and I'm not sure how the thing should go back together. A visit to Gaugemaster's site and Google didn't reveal anything; all I found was modern, more sophisticated stuff. Can someone help me with this, please? It's the old CDU that consisted of just a bit of copper-clad paxolin, a capacitor and a diode.
Cheers and many thanks,
Artur
Re: Capacitor discharge unit.
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:51 pm
by Steve M
Artur, new ones are very inexpensive. Just get a new one ordered from GM.
Re: Capacitor discharge unit.
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:36 pm
by Rog (RJ)
Agreed, get a new one. Old electrolytic capacitors can dry out and not work properly.
Re: Capacitor discharge unit.
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:40 pm
by RSR Engineer
Good idea, Steve; in fact, I've already done that. I was just hoping to use this old one in the meantime to test my SM3 point motors (legacy of the old layout). Some of them are a bit obstinate on just plain 16V AC.
À propos, can anyone please tell me also if there's a lubricant I can squirt into an SM3 without gumming it up permanently? I'm reluctant to flush the thing out with petrol or whatever in case I dissolve the varnish on the solenoid windings.
Cheers and many thanks,
Artur
Sorry, Rog, your comment landed while I was drafting. I didn't realise that about capacitors drying out. Thank you for pointing that out.
Re: Capacitor discharge unit.
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:56 pm
by Brian
Hi
The Gaugemaster CDU is a good purchase. But if you want more capacitance look at the offerings from Blocksignalling.
http://www.blocksignalling.co.uk/index. ... du2c-cdu4c
On Seep and the occasionally a Peco PL10 I use a contact cleaner spray sold under the Electrolube label. Like this eBay example..
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electrolube- ... 1583810602
Re: Capacitor discharge unit.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:43 am
by shroomy
Arthur I am sure I’ve got something kicking around will have a look if your interested. Just pay postage
Re: Capacitor discharge unit.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:36 pm
by RSR Engineer
Many thanks again for your feedback, gentlemen. I have already ordered a Gaugemaster CDU and will see how that goes. If any of those old SM3s still dig their heels in, I'll have to see if I can't soup up the CDU with a few more μF. That certainly worked on the old setup, no ifs and buts. What I will not need is to throw several points at once. On the old layout it was always sufficient to push the one button a couple of times. I'll get some Electrolube as well.
Cheers,
Artur
Re: Capacitor discharge unit.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:44 pm
by teedoubleudee
Be careful of over powering CDUs. I replaced all my solenoid point motors with slow action ones as the plastic point tie bars were being damaged.
Re: Capacitor discharge unit.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:03 pm
by Walkingthedog
Oh dear TWD that is unfortunate. Practically all the points on my loft layout were operated via a hefty CDU for many years. They are still in use on my new layout without motors.
Re: Capacitor discharge unit.
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:45 pm
by RSR Engineer
Hmm, bit of a dilemma, that. I'll see how the standard CDU goes and take it from there. Thanks for your comments, gentlemen. Sorry, Wtd, I don't quite follow; have you gone back to Mercontrol levers and tube and wire?
Cheers,
Artur