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Private owner wagons

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:54 am
by General DeGaulle
Back in the day, did private owner wagons actually carry what was written on the side? I'm sure that in the case of stuff like coal, aggregates wood etc they would have, but what about - say - a wagon with 'Persil' or 'Weetabix' on the side? Were such wagons in fact mobile advertising hoardings, which could contain any number of different products?

Re: Private owner wagons

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:00 am
by Walkingthedog
A lot of those wagons probably didn’t exist. Much like the Hornby version with Fathers Day on it. Was it full of fathers?

If they existed they would have worked in the private sidings of these companies. Huntley and Palmers had some that were used at their factory in Reading, as did Cadburys at their factory.

Re: Private owner wagons

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:11 am
by General DeGaulle
Hmm, good point, and thanks - I'm trying to avoid as much fictitious stuff as possible. I wonder if Hornby actually get advertising revenue from some of these companies?

Re: Private owner wagons

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:31 am
by IanS
General DeGaulle wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:11 am Hmm, good point, and thanks - I'm trying to avoid as much fictitious stuff as possible. I wonder if Hornby actually get advertising revenue from some of these companies?
Or did (do) they have to pay to licence the use of the name?

Re: Private owner wagons

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:34 am
by Mr Bones
Walkingthedog wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:00 am A lot of those wagons probably didn’t exist. Much like the Hornby version with Fathers Day on it. Was it full of fathers?
So are you saying Santa never really had a Santa's Express :o You have shattered my childhood dreams :shock:

Re: Private owner wagons

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:15 pm
by General DeGaulle
The Father's day and Santa wagons - a bit of a given that they are fictitious, much like the entire Thomas the Tank stuff. I suppose I was meaning more the Palethorpes Sausages, Weetabix, Persil, Pickfords Removals type of thing, which at least look plausible and use the vintage logos of the era 3 or 4 periods.

Re: Private owner wagons

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:20 pm
by glencairn
Mr Bones wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:34 am
Walkingthedog wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:00 am A lot of those wagons probably didn’t exist. Much like the Hornby version with Fathers Day on it. Was it full of fathers?
So are you saying Santa never really had a Santa's Express :o You have shattered my childhood dreams :shock:
Heathens! Unbelievers!

Santa has a Santa's Express. The grandchildren take me on the train to see Santa every year.

Here is the proof.
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Santa is coming
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The man himself.
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Glencairn

Re: Private owner wagons

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:18 pm
by General DeGaulle
Oh dear... it IS real. Which I suppose means the Thomas stuff is real, because I saw him at the Lakeside Haverthwaite rly once!

Re: Private owner wagons

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:57 pm
by Walkingthedog
General DeGaulle wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:15 pm The Father's day and Santa wagons - a bit of a given that they are fictitious, much like the entire Thomas the Tank stuff. I suppose I was meaning more the Palethorpes Sausages, Weetabix, Persil, Pickfords Removals type of thing, which at least look plausible and use the vintage logos of the era 3 or 4 periods.
Palethorpes are real and probably Pickfords but probably 90% are just a bit of fun.

Re: Private owner wagons

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:11 pm
by Chops
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Don't you believe those naysayers, Gen'l. The prototype wagon was stuffed full of...of...current jam!