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Hello,

I found this pic the other day;


I'm going to make a very small shunting layout and this will do nicely only about 8ft wheel base.

And found the drawing on the GANSG site;


Resized it to the cheapest scale to make stuff in

The body will be stuck to artists mount board, the W irons and axle boxes to Ryman's mount board and the brake gear to cereal box card.

More as I do some.

Cheers - Jim

Card is a great medium to model in. I made quite a few wagons in it many years ago. Nowadays however I use plastic card which is admittedly a bit more expensive.






Looking forward to pictures of yours.

Hello LC&DR

Thanks for the reply good of you, your wagons look really well done fair play to you. I always failed in the wagons from the Plastikard dept, I did make a few loco bodies from it though. It's what you first find and then overcome the problems as they crop up not so much the stuff they are made from, that's what makes modelling so much fun

I made a start on my Van body;


I stuck the prints onto card and coated them with Shellac. I make a couple of cuts along the planking lines and then peel out the cut strip. Slipped over the door a couple of times and had to fill the cuts with Seccotine, this is what you find!

Cheers - Jim

Look forward to following this thread.

Heres one i baked earlier.

Didn’t know you made cardboard wagons Brian.

Hello Wtd,

Thanks for saying that nice of you.

Hello Brian,

Baked! Very well done fair play to you, sometimes when you really like something and there's no RTR or kit it becomes a joy to make one.

Cheers both - Jim

Not available for many years now but E Rankin Grey published a couple of booklets about making cardboard rolling stock

https://www.brightontoymuseum.co.uk/ind ... ion_Models

He also sold card kits pre-printed so that modellers could cut them out, score the planks and stick them together. He used Seccotine glue but nowadays PVA would probably be the most suitable available. He also recommended Shellac to seal the cardboard butr I guess PVA would do just as well.

I used his ideas myself, which produced some good results, sadly long gone now to that marshalling yard in the sky.

Hello LC&DR,

Thanks for the message and for the interesting link. I use PVA to glue stuff together, Shellac is the only coating where the nextlayer dissolves into the first, wonderful stuff, great metal primer as well.

Seccotine never went away L. Cornelissen & Son, the artists colourmen and Lucy Coad who makes and restores square pianos both sell it. It was first formulated by Stradivarius for his Violins and Cellos strong but removable, or so an instrument restorer in Hoddesdon explained to me. Mixed with Talcum powder it makes super bolt and rivet heads. It's also very good for making fillets on a loco dome or chimney.

I have Mr Grey's book, having failed to make anything myself in 2mm, 3mm and 4mm I tried 7mm. Eileen bought me a kit which I assembled in an evening. I went back to Mr Millership's Modeller's Mecca and said I'd made someone else model at great expense to Eileen.

Unlike a lot of other shop owners Roy didn't send me away, he said I've got just the book for you, "Cardboard rolling stock and how to build it" it's 50p and there are a pile of old magazines in the corner, lots of them have 7mm drawings and they are 50p each. I bought the book and some mags, great bloke Roy, he asked to see the results and I took great pleasure in showing him stuff I'd made and thanking him.

Finding ERG in a magazine I gave him a ring, another nice bloke, he said I'm packing in would you like the drawings I have left, I said yes, he said send me some stamps, I did and a big envelope arrived full of drawings, I've still got it somewhere.

Cheers - Jim

Enough (.ed) and my 3d figure has finished rendering

A great post so far Jim! Where do you get your Shellac if you don’t mind me asking? When I googled it the references were quite vague except that it’s made from dead insects! Also, can it be used on card buildings cos parts of mine need some strengthening. Can’t wait to see your finished wagon and perhaps get some more tips!
PS Don’t worry about all the exclamation marks- I just have a thing about them!!