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Adding Droppers to Points.
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:04 pm
by Journeyman
Just sorting out track, cleaning it and soldering on droppers to the straits and curves.
The points are in poor condition and the blades do not pick up the current reliably because the contacts under the blades are badly corroded.
It is normal practice to feed the point from the toe but that needs good contacts to work.
What I’m contemplating doing is to solder droppers on to the two stock rails and the two frog rails at the other end. My tester shows this will provide power to the closure rails and the blades.
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Can you see any reason not to do this?
Thanks, Dave.
Re: Adding Droppers to Points.
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:20 pm
by darkscot
The easy answer to your question, at least from me, is yes! That is exactly what I have done on several of my aging points.
Re: Adding Droppers to Points.
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:46 pm
by Journeyman
Thanks very much for the quick response, just what I was hoping to hear
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Cheers, Dave.
Re: Adding Droppers to Points.
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:22 pm
by darkscot
In my experience you cannot have to many extra connections on points, especially old ones.
Re: Adding Droppers to Points.
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:54 pm
by Journeyman
Yes, this kind seem to make good connections from the frog end but some might need a small flexible wire to the blade as well.
Good to know that you are finding the same.
Dave.
Re: Adding Droppers to Points.
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:26 am
by Brian
Hi
As I said on the other forum you posted the question on...
What your suggesting is fine.. But note it of course means the points two exit tracks are always live, rather than being switched by the point blades position. So do bear that in mind as it may cause issues with tracks further along after the point! It also involves more wiring.
The alternative, is to solder onto the underside of the points rails between each stock rail and adjacent closure rail a link wire, then consider also extending the link wires so as they become droppers and feed both sides rails of the point from the controller.
Suggested method..
Re: Adding Droppers to Points.
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:42 am
by darkscot
Brian wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:26 am
This is what I have done on some of my points, the only reason I didn't do it on all of them is that I forgot! I am now paying the price as my Caledonian and L&Y pugs never run over them without stalling!
Re: Adding Droppers to Points.
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:04 am
by Journeyman
Thanks Brian, that is a very neat solution and is the way I will go.
It’s these informed understandings that make these forums so valuable to newcomers like myself, it’s much appreciated that you’re all so ready to share.
Cheers, Dave.
Re: Adding Droppers to Points.
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:34 pm
by Journeyman
Rather than starting a new thread I thought I would add to this one.
Does anyone know what make these points are? And are they better of worse than the Hornby?
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Although they seem to have better blade contacts than the Hornby I can’t see an easy way of bypassing the contacts with droppers.
Cheers, Dave.
Re: Adding Droppers to Points.
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:08 am
by darkscot
Unless I am very much mistaken, that is set of Lima points. I believe they are decent enough and would be OK in a siding. I personally would only buy Peco points now, if you already have them then why not use them. However, I do not think you can easily use them with 'standard' point motors. The three spade shaped indentations on the bottom left are for connections to the Lima point motors I think.