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I just realised I have been calling my engine Queen Elizabeth. It is of course Princess Elizabeth.
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I will try and get some pictures done of the loco tonight and post them once I have edited them accordingly.
With the amount of pictures I will be doing, I will have to refresh my memory on how much space is available per post so that I don't exceeed the amount of pictures that can be posted in a single post. If necessary, I can spread the pictures over a few posts with explanations ( if required ) of what I did at each stage.
Please let me know what you think and / or whether you would like explanations of each stage or not and I will do what I can.
With the amount of pictures I will be doing, I will have to refresh my memory on how much space is available per post so that I don't exceeed the amount of pictures that can be posted in a single post. If necessary, I can spread the pictures over a few posts with explanations ( if required ) of what I did at each stage.
Please let me know what you think and / or whether you would like explanations of each stage or not and I will do what I can.
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Would it be easier if I sent you my email address to you. Or if its of interest to others do what Brian suggests. Bearing in mind I am living in an era pre internet.....
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As promised, here are the pictures regarding the conversion of a tender drive princess class locomotive to locomotive drive.

The gear shown in picture 1 is the X03 version, the axle has the knurls in the middle to keep it from working loose so for this conversion, the axles need to be knurled and also the same diameter as the original axle.

Here is the peters spares X03 replacement motor ( plastic worm gear ), the fitting of these into the chassis of a tender drive locomotive is quite straightforward, the only added piece to the process is that the chassis needs to be drilled to enable the motor to be fixed in place with a screw once the drilled out metal has been tapped with a threading tool. The chassis needs to be drilled to any size between 1.5 & 2.0 mm depending on the size of screw you have available.

The tender motor block with all the insides of the motor removed.

Tender motor with extra pickups. These were added last night after some lumpy running but since the pickuos were added and wired to the motor, the performance has greatly improved.
On the subject of pickups for this conversion, the locomotive has live wheel pickup on the left hand side ( based on viewing from the cab of the loco with the front facing away from you ) and has 2 pickups fitted to supplement the live wheels. The right hand side has only 1 out of 3 of the insulated wheels picking up with the current arrangement, I am looking at improving this arrangement by removing the current pickups and making my own which will be fitted to the underside of the keeper plate and give 4 out of 6 wheels with pickups aswell as the wheels on the tender.
If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask and I will do my best to explain any part of the process if required.

The gear shown in picture 1 is the X03 version, the axle has the knurls in the middle to keep it from working loose so for this conversion, the axles need to be knurled and also the same diameter as the original axle.

Here is the peters spares X03 replacement motor ( plastic worm gear ), the fitting of these into the chassis of a tender drive locomotive is quite straightforward, the only added piece to the process is that the chassis needs to be drilled to enable the motor to be fixed in place with a screw once the drilled out metal has been tapped with a threading tool. The chassis needs to be drilled to any size between 1.5 & 2.0 mm depending on the size of screw you have available.

The tender motor block with all the insides of the motor removed.

Tender motor with extra pickups. These were added last night after some lumpy running but since the pickuos were added and wired to the motor, the performance has greatly improved.
On the subject of pickups for this conversion, the locomotive has live wheel pickup on the left hand side ( based on viewing from the cab of the loco with the front facing away from you ) and has 2 pickups fitted to supplement the live wheels. The right hand side has only 1 out of 3 of the insulated wheels picking up with the current arrangement, I am looking at improving this arrangement by removing the current pickups and making my own which will be fitted to the underside of the keeper plate and give 4 out of 6 wheels with pickups aswell as the wheels on the tender.
If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask and I will do my best to explain any part of the process if required.
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Thank you for the photos and description. Easy to follow work. I like the pickups on the wheel rim rather than down the sides. Found them always a bit dicky making good contact. Think I might be doing it this way from now on myself.
Thanks again for the photos and the ideas.
Dirk
Thanks again for the photos and the ideas.
Dirk
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Hi Dirk
No problem at all sir. Something I forgot to mention was not to worry about having to use thick wire to carry the power, I only used it as that was all I could find at the time I wired up the pickups.
For wiring on locomotives, I use the internal wires of a phone charging cable once they have been removed from a cable that has failed to charge a phone because of a bad connection or a broken wire usually at or near the end which plugs into my phone. The average amount of wire I can salvage is usually around 4 × 66 inches as I usually leave about 6 inches of wire attached to a standard usb plug for other projects I might try.
Using the wires from a phone cable saves quite a bit money wise and is very handy for loco to tender connections if a wire fails around where the loco and tender are connected.
No problem at all sir. Something I forgot to mention was not to worry about having to use thick wire to carry the power, I only used it as that was all I could find at the time I wired up the pickups.
For wiring on locomotives, I use the internal wires of a phone charging cable once they have been removed from a cable that has failed to charge a phone because of a bad connection or a broken wire usually at or near the end which plugs into my phone. The average amount of wire I can salvage is usually around 4 × 66 inches as I usually leave about 6 inches of wire attached to a standard usb plug for other projects I might try.
Using the wires from a phone cable saves quite a bit money wise and is very handy for loco to tender connections if a wire fails around where the loco and tender are connected.
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I am always saving bits and pieces from wire to nuts and bolts to scrap pieces of wood. A real bower bird when it comes to that. You just never know when you are going to need it.
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